Springfield 87M rifle

My dad was born in 1929 and grew up in Michigan.  As a teen in early the 1940’s, he bought a Springfield 87M .22 rifle from his youth pastor.  When I was a young boy in the late 60’s I remember seeing the rifle in our attic.  When I was a bit older I took it shooting at the range.  My dad ended up giving me the rifle when I was a teen.  After moving to CT, I joined my High School rifle team and practiced with it.  (That’s right ... my CT High School had a rifle team).  It’s in its original condition and has been in the family for over 70 years.  

I recently started shooting the rifle at my club and several people asked me about it.  It inspired me to do some research to see what 87M information I could uncover.

What I found seems pretty reliable but I’m not really sure how to verify it.  I have the Springfield 87M with a Garand stock and a low-mount Weaver scope.  Below is what I found.

J. Stevens Arms Company was founded in 1864 at Chicopee Falls, MA as J. Stevens & Co.  In 1886 the company name was changed to J. Stevens Arms and Tool Co.  It operated under this name until 1920 (1926?) when it was acquired by the Savage Arms Co., who manufactured firearms marked "J. Stevens Arms Co.".  Savage dropped the "J. Stevens Arms Co." designation in the late 1940s, and used only the name "Stevens" up to 1990.  In 1990, Savage discontinued the manufacture of all firearms bearing the Stevens trademark.  

The Springfield 87M was produced by J. Stevens Arms Co as a variation of the Stevens 87a action which was very common. The Springfield associated with Military use was Springfield Armory, a US Government owned arms manufacturer and has nothing to do with Savage-Springfield.  The company used the Springfield name to cash in on the popularity of the Springfield Armory military 1903/ 1903A bolt action rifle as well as the newly adopted M1 Garand rifle.  

Rumor had it that the rifle was produced as a possible military Garand-like training rifle however the rifle was never accepted by the Government.

Research said approximately 300 87M rifles were produced around 1940 and ended up being sold to commercial accounts. The rifle was very expensive back then and did not sell well. The Springfield name was discontinued around 1946-48.  

None of the 300 rifles had serial numbers however a number can be found on the underside of the military metal butt plate on the end of the stock. My rifle has the number 77 stamped on the underside of the metal butt plate and on the end of the stock.  

The hand guard resembled the Garand's wood; tubular magazine feed from the front; its utility was questionable and its production run was short.  Three versions of the 87M were produced. One has open sights. It said the other two features a Weaver 330 scope similar to the one produced for the military. The scopes are on two distinct mounts- one sits high and the rifle had the front sight intact. The other is on a low mount and the front sight is removed. All three rifles feature a military leather sling.  My gun has a low mount Weaver 29s scope and no sling.

Research said the 87M is seldom encountered today in its original configuration and is appreciating rapidly and examples in good condition are very hard to find. The 87M has taken on the mystique of the "rifle that should have been a Garand trainer or were the 300 prototypes that the gov’t decided not to buy".

Some have also called the 87M a " T1" trainer, however, the T1 was a Pederson prototype 7mm rifle that was in competition with the Garand " T3" prototype as a replacement for the military 1903/1903A Springfield Armory bolt action rifle. General McArthur demanded that the caliber be changed to 30-06 and the Garand was the winner of the competition/ placed into mass production in 1940.

The action of the 87M is nicknamed "Gill Gun" due to the vents on the left side of the receiver. The 87M action is also called "Clickity Clack" referring to the sound of the semi-auto action when fired.

Research said no production records exist as a factory fire destroyed all records. Internet websites list perhaps two dozen or fewer rifles based on the production number on the underside of the stock butt plate.  

Members on one blog said they have never seen a number higher than 265 on the butt plate with claims there were no duplicates implying no production runs.  Later on that blog it was determined that 3 people had duplicate numbered butt plates.  Hmm. My thought is if these were true prototype guns with no serial numbers I wouldn’t think they would care much if they had a duplicate number on more than one butt plate.  

The scope on my gun is a W. R. Weaver Model 29S made in El Paso, TEX USA.  I contacted Weaver.  They said the 29S was manufactured by the original W.R Weaver Company of El Paso, TX.  They said it’s a 3x power scope produced from 1937 to 1947 when it was replaced by the K4 model.  In 1937 it sold for $11.70 including the T-side mount. (The scope side mount on my gun says T 1).  It's .75 inches in diameter and 10.5 inches long.  My gun has always had this low-mount scope with no front or rear sights.

My son said he wanted to replace the scope with something modern saying it would be more fun to shoot with something like a 3x9 scope but the old scope stays put.  

After sighting it in I am able to shoot dime-size patterns on quarter-size targets at 25 yards.  I haven’t brought it to the 50-yard range yet. Not to throw down the “I’M OLD” card but how well could I see quarter-size targets at 50 yards with that scope???  At some point, I will find out.  It is accurate and a fun gun to shoot.  The tube magazine holds 15 .22LR rounds.  You can push in the button on the bolt to shoot single shots and manually feed the next round or you can shoot in semi-automatic mode if using .22LR rounds.

On the barrel, my gun says SPRINGFIELD  J. Stevens Arms Company Chicopee Falls, MA USA  87M          

On the underside of my metal butt plate and on the butt of the stock is the number 77. 

The forward part of my Garand stock has the number 123 stamped.  The stock cover over the top of the barrel also has the number 123 stamped.

There is a shield stamp on the underside of my trigger guard that looks like it says AMP CO.  

There are 2 Patent numbers on the barrel of my 87M.  2094577 and 2223093.

The links below are these patents dated 1937 and 1940. If the links don't work you can cut and paste.

2094577 ... Patented October 5, 1937

https://patents.google.com/patent/US2094577A/en

(Scroll down in this first link to read. The PDF link is below)

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/4f/e8/0d/54916ab60efb66/US2094577.pdf

2223093 ... Patented November 26, 1940

https://patents.google.com/patent/US2223093A/en

(Scroll down in this first link to read. The PDF link is below)

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/a4/2f/71/3bb768ad8fd6f6/US2223093.pdf

In semi-automatic mode you squeeze the trigger, a round fires, the bolt opens and ejects that round, but the bolt stays open until you release the trigger.  As you release the trigger the bolt moves forward and another round is fed into the chamber.   In other words, the bolt opens and closes as fast or slow as you squeeze and release the trigger.  This action causes the "Clickity Clack" sound referenced above.  With the bolt open you can push the button on the bolt to lock it in the open position.

In reading its description, this patent 2223093 found on my 87M relates to “… a mechanism for automatically holding the action open until the shooter’s finger is released from the trigger and also pertains to the trigger or release mechanism broadly considered of a firearm of a semiautomatic or self-loading type.  One purpose for this invention is to provide a new and better release or trigger mechanism for semiautomatic or self-loading firearms."

It further states this design counters the potential issues with the rapid return of the breach bolt.  …“Such rapid return does have some disadvantages such as in some cases not allowing sufficient time for the proper operation of the cartridge feed mechanism causing a mistimed engagement between the breech bolt and the cartridge, resulting in either deformation of the cartridge case or of the bullet carried thereby, producing bad jams and in some cases interfering with the ejection of the cartridge case from the gun.”  “To provide a mechanism that will overcome or avoid the objections just named is the main purpose of this invention.” 

I did reach out to Savage Arms to find more answers.  They put me in touch with the Savage Arms Historian.

I sent him a letter requesting information on my Springfield 87M.  He does research on Savage, Stevens, and A.H Fox firearms. 

On April 20, 2015, I received a response on Savage Arms Corporation letterhead with a Savage Arms raised Notary Seal in the lower left so is official.  I have scanned and attached the document with blotted names and addresses.  I have copied word for word what the historian said in case you can't read the jpg.

Dear Mr.

Thank you for writing and your interest concerning your older Stevens rifle.

Your Stevens/Springfield Model 87-M was built with a distinctly military look.  According to notes from Roe Clark, former historian, it was built especially for the Sears Roebuck Co. after World War II.  It’s appearance closely resembles an M-1 Garand rifle and Sears Roebuck no doubt wanted to capitalize on the 87-M’s look, the Springfield name, and the fine reputation the Garand earned in that conflict.  Some apparently were purchased by the military but no records show that it was directly from the company.

To accommodate Sears Roebuck, the Steven’s Co. adapted their reliable Model 87 semi-automatic rifle by building and fitting a full-length military-style stock complete with a handguard over the barrel.  Appropriate military-looking sights and barrel bands were also furnished.

Other characteristics were a 24” round tapered barrel, and tubular magazine, with a capacity for 15, .22 LR, 17 long, and 21 short cartridges.  The semi-automatic action had an independent safety and was constructed with Chrome Molybdenum steel used in the high shock parts.  In addition to functioning as a semi-automatic, the cross-bolt could be pressed to the left to lock the action for use as a manual repeater or single shot.  The action on this rifle can be easily disassembled for cleaning without the use of tools.

The model 87 action itself was dependable and reliable with over 1.8 million made in several variations from it’s introduction in 1939 until discontinued in the early 1980’s.  The 87-M in particular has become a quiet collector favorite.

I trust that this information will help you.

Sincerely,

Updated on 5/7/2015.

I was doing more research and came across an excellent website called Cornell Publications LLC, which said they are the “World's Largest Old Gun Catalog & Manual Reprinter”.

I noticed a “Contents – Index” for each catalog.  I started looking at the different catalogs to try to figure out when the Springfield 87 appeared for sale.  That would help determine when the 87 was put into production.  Figuring you can’t sell something that doesn’t exist the appearance would determine or help validate when the 87 was first manufactured.  Below is what I found.

"Stevens 1938 Springfield and Crescent/Davis Distributors Catalog" listed the Springfield Model 87.
“Stevens 1938-Springfield and Crescent/Davis Catalog” listed the Springfield 87 Bolt Action.
“Springfield 1939 and Crescent-Davis Distributors Price Catalog” listed Springfield No. 87.
“JL Galef 1939 World's Fair Issue Gun, Fishing & Sports Catalog (NY)” listed the Springfield Model 87.
“Stevens 1940 Export Catalog” listed the Springfield 87.
“Stevens 1940 Rifle & Shotgun Gun Catalog” listed the Springfield 87 as a Springfield Automatic Rifle No. 87.
“Stevens c1940 Rifle Shotgun Pistol Component Part Catalog” listed the Stevens Model 87A.
“Stevens 1942 Component Parts Catalog” listed Parts Model 87A.
“Stoeger 1944 - The Shooter's Bible #35 Gun Catalog”.  In the table of contents, it listed Springfield 87.
“Stevens 1946 Component Parts Catalog” listed the Stevens Model 87A.
“Stevens 1946 Rifle & Shotgun Gun #43 Catalog” listed the Springfield 87.
“Stevens 1947-49 Component Parts Catalog” listed the Stevens 87A.
“Savage 1947, Stevens, Fox Catalog of Firearms” under Springfield Rifles listed the 87.
“Philip Jay Medicus 1949-50 Catalog” listed the Stevens Model 87.
“Stevens 1950 Component Parts Price List Catalog” under New Style listed the 87A.
“Savage 1951-2 Stevens Fox Component Parts” lists the Stevens or Springfield Models 87s.
“Savage 1952 - Stevens - Fox Shotguns and Rifles” listed the Stevens Automatic Repeating Rifles, Model 87.
“Savage 1955 Stevens Fox Component Parts Catalog” under “Auto Repeating Action Models” listed the 87A, 87AB, 87AT, B, C, Stevens or Springfield.
“Savage c1980 Component Parts Catalog” listed the following under “Automatic Tubular Feed”: 87A, 87AB, 87AT, 87B, 87C, 87D, 87K, 87E, 87KE, 87H, 87KH, 87J, 87M, 87N.

I looked at how my patent research above lined up with the catalogs above.

The first patient number on my 87M is 2094577 and was patented on October 5, 1937.  Many of the components shown are the same on my 87M but it is showing a bolt action.  The “Stevens 1938-Springfield and Crescent/Davis Catalog” listed the 87 as a Springfield 87 bolt action.  This would indicate the bolt action version of the 87 went into production sometime after October 5, 1937, to 1938 as it is listed in a 1938 catalog.

The second patient number on my 87M is 2223093 and was patented on November 6, 1940.  This patent includes semi-automatic action.  In the “Stevens 1940 Rifle & Shotgun Gun Catalog,” the 87 is listed as a “Springfield Automatic Rifle No. 87”.  That would indicate the first production runs of the 87 with the semi-automatic action came out in late 1940 as it is listed in a 1940 catalog.

Some good information on the Stevens/Springfield/Savage Model 87.  I only found one reference to the 87M in the “Savage c1980 Component Parts Catalog”. 

From several sources, the 87M (M stands for Musket) or the 87 Musket was also produced by Stevens for Sears and was the Model 101.22.  Savage produced Model 101.16 for Sears.

From my research, it seems that the 87 actions (bolt or automatic) are the same in all 87 models. 

This leads me to 2 questions: Was the 87M sold with anything other than the Garand stock?  Were there other 87's or 101's sold with a Garand stock?  I think the answer to both questions is "No".  

Since the Garand stock is very rare, I wonder if the numbers on the forward stock and cover would indicate the number of Garand stocks manufactured?  My stock and cover are stamped 123.

On a side note, someone asked about 87 gun parts.  One place I would suggest is Numrich Gun Parts.  https://www.gunpartscorp.com/

I enjoy shooting my 87M at the range.  I don't normally push products but did buy a Spee-D-15 tube loader that works really well.  I bought mine online.  It saves time loading at the range ... on the other hand, I noticed I'm shooting more ammo now.  Oh for another brick of .22's ...

Updated on 4/22/2022.

Ron G posted a response to my blog post with a different twist.  I thought I would take up the challenge and see if I could check out some advertising.

I found several advertisements for the 87 Automatic as early as 1940.

I found several advertisements for my Weaver 29-S scope in that same time period.

Here is the prize.  I was able to find two Sears advertisements showing the Garand stock.  

The first is a 1941 ad introducing the Ranger Minute Man.  Sears named many versions of their guns "Ranger".  This ad calls the Garand a Ranger Minute Man.  The ad says "From its steel butt plate to its sturdy, front sight guard, this exclusive Sears-designed RANGER is built to take the same kind of killing punishment that military rifles endure.  It has fine-gun accuracy and lightning-fast, semi-automatic firing!  The full-length, two-piece, genuine walnut stock was designed especially for Sears by E. C. Bishop, famous custom stock maker."  

The ad says the Garand stock, steel butt plate, sling, Leafstyle rear peep sight, and front sight guard were made specifically for the Sears Ranger "Minute Man".  My research does say there were 3 87M versions. One with iron sights, the other two with a high or low mound scope.  Scopes may have been add-ons based on the Weaver scope ad above.

The "Minute Man" could say 87M, Model 101.22 (both made by Stevens), or Model 101.16 (made by Savage) on the barrel?   My gun barrel says 87M.  

 

I enlarged the section so you can read it easier.

The second ad is from 1942.  Not as much detail as in the introduction of the Minute Man.  

I have only been able to find ads in 1941 and 1942 featuring the Garand stock.  This could be due to limited production runs of the stock, higher manufacturing costs for this model, or its higher price causing a lack of sales?  Who knows ... 

I also found Sears rifle number information.

I will keep looking for other Garand advertisements.  I like to research so thanks for the challenge Ron ...

I am interested in what numbers others have on their Garand stock and cover.  My stock and cover are stamped #123.  Check that on your stock.

Updated on 04/27/23

A codes and markings link.

https://proofhouse.com/cm/codes_markings.htm

Stevens, J. Arms & Tool Company Established in 1864 in Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts. Absorbed Page-Lewis Arms Company, DavisWarner Arms Company, and Crescent Fire Arms Company in 1926, and was in turn absorbed by Savage Arms Corporation in 1936.

101 Code following the model name on arms made for Sears, Roebuck & Company by Savage.

102 Code following the model name on arms made for Sears, Roebuck & Company by Savage.

A Quick Hike in Monson Village

It was a cool windy day with clouds rolling by.  I thought I would take a quick hike at Monson Village to see the Great Blue Heron in their nests.

I counted 11 nests this year.  The distance to the nests, the mostly grey sky, the color of the trees, and the bird colors all blending together, made it difficult to spot the birds without a zoom or binoculars.  I had both.

Birds in flight can be interesting.  I watched and waited long enough to see a couple Heron make their approach and land by their nests.

I saw a couple geese also.  The prior year I didn't see any geese or ducks.

I didn't expect to see synchronized swimming on my walk in the woods?

The Heron were paired up.  Each nest had one of the pair sitting.  I saw no little ones in the nests so the eggs have not hatched yet.  When not moving around in the nest it is hard to make out anything but a head and beak.  I spotted a couple heron on the ground gathering more nest material.  I may return in a few weeks to look for the youngsters.

As I headed for my jeep, dark clouds rolled in.  Unexpectedly, it started to hail.  Hail makes lots of noise in the woods!  Once I cleared the woods to the open field, the hail slowly turned to rain so I picked up the pace.  I wasn't expecting to get wet with my camera and all.  Next time I will check the weather report and plan better.

Foliage Run - Northeast Kingdom of Vermont - 2021

With foliage descending on New England, I decided to drive to the Northeast Kingdom (NEK) of Vermont to take pictures.  I had planned to go the prior Saturday, but the weather report said rain all day Saturday and Sunday.  That put a damper on taking pictures, so I postponed my adventure. 

With the weather looking good the following week I thought I would avoid the weekend traffic by going up and back on Friday, October 8.  Here are a couple overhead pictures I took.

My plan was to be on the road by 4:00AM to get to Lake Willoughby by sunrise.  I woke up at 3:00AM. Yes, with no alarm clock.  It was earlier than planned.  In any case, I was driving by 3:40AM. 

I started on Rt3N to I93N.  No traffic but there was fog in some spots.  I stopped after an hour of driving and the Dunkin’s wasn’t open.  NUTS.  The fog continued to slow me down as I headed North.  With the windshield wipers going I couldn’t see much other than the road lines for much of the drive.  I93 through Franconia Notch then the merge with I91N.  From there I got off in Lyndonville, Rt 5.

I got gas and my first cup of coffee in Lyndonville.   I took Rt5 to Rt 5A to the south end of Lake Willoughby.  Because of my early departure, I arrived before sunrise.

Lake Willoughby has Mount Pisgah on the Eastside and Mount Hor on the Westside.  As it started to get light the colors didn’t really pop until the sun hit Mount Hor.  The North end of the lake was fogged in.   The colors were bright.  I took some pictures and wish I could have stayed longer but I had other plans.  

Rt5A is at the base of Mount Pisgah so I continued North.  From there I turned toward Island Pond and Rt105.

Off Rt105 I started down some dirt roads to the big woods.  I ended up driving 40 miles on dirt roads deep in the woods.  Fun with a Jeep as usual.  

In all that dirt road driving I only saw 7 other vehicles including 3 hunters and 1 logging truck.  I am glad I didn’t break down.  Being so far North I was on Canadian cell service.  Even more remote, my cell didn’t work most of the time as I was far removed from the Canadian towers too.

The foliage was outstanding.  Everywhere I look there was color.  Here are a couple overhead pictures looking down on the dirt roads I was driving on.

I stopped Mollie Beattie Bog.  I walked to the end of the wheelchair-accessible path and took pictures.  They say it is one of the most significant black spruce woodland bogs in Vermont and contains one of the largest populations of bog sedge, which is a rare plant in Vermont.  When taking these pictures, I noticed some unusual spider webs on some trees.  Interesting with the condensation on the web.  Couldn’t see the spiders though.

I went to Lewis Pond.  It was beautiful and so peaceful.  They built a wheelchair-accessible path through the woods to the pond.  I wish I could have stayed there longer but I wanted to keep exploring.

I continued to the Lewis Pond overlook.  Unfortunately, it was the wrong time of day as the sun wasn't in a very good location for pictures from the overlook.  If I was staying over, I would be getting up early enough to get to this overlook for a sunrise.  It has a great view of multiple mountains in the distance.

I continued exploring the dirt roads and eventually headed back to Island Pond.  I took Rt114N toward Norton to the Hurricane Brook area.  More dirt roads and trails.

From there, back South to Rt111 toward Morgan.  I took several barn pictures along the way.  I saw some horses and seemed to make a friend with this one.

I decided at that point to head toward Holland Pond.  On my way, there were trucks, combines, and tractors busy with cutting corn and hay.  I stopped to take a few pictures cutting the corn.   It was fun to watch.  Reminded me of the family farm in Iowa I would visit when I was younger.

I continued to Holland Pond.  The road went right to the Canadian border before turning east.  Going east there were posted signs marking the Canadian border along the edge of several fields.  I took several pictures of Holland Pond. 

I decided mid-afternoon to head to Peacham, VT.  My GPS sent me West along the border to I91S.  As I approached the main border crossing at I91, I saw multiple border patrol agents on the roads.  I made sure I didn’t accidentally turn North and go over the border to cause an international incident.  Hehe …

I took I91S to Rt2W toward Peacham.  Peacham has a pretty church and Barn in the center of town.  When I arrived, there were 4 or 5 cars parked and people on the hill taking pictures.  That seems to be a picture hot spot.  While taking a few pictures with my drone I could see a couple other farms in the distance, so I drove to them and took a few more pictures.

From Peacham, I decided to start to head toward home.  Making my way to Rt5S, I headed toward I89.  I stopped at a round barn in Woodsville and took a couple pictures.  After Woodsville it was starting to get dark, so I decided to jump on I91S to I89S for a quick drive home. 

Once on I89S, I stopped for Gas in Lebanon.  When I merged on to I93S in Concord, NH, the traffic going northbound was all backed up and slow-moving.  They were heading North to leaf peep.  I made the right call doing the Friday thing.  Home just after 9:00PM.

I had to take a couple Intentional Camera Movement (ICM) pictures.  I like them.  Pam doesn't.  Oh well.

I love taking pictures but several times while driving I regretted not having anyone with me to share the experience.  Over 500 miles, lots of pictures, spectacular views while driving the back roads in the Northeast Kingdom, and the foliage … OH MY …

Click on the pictures to enlarge.